and that's what we need for the future so antonio gracias who you know well has been extremely successful in this space uh maybe you could give us a thought uh antonio and then i'll turn to thomas toll

Thank you, Dave.

I appreciate it very much, and thank you, Dave, for inviting me.

Mr.

President, it's been extraordinary.

I've been working in manufacturing and defense tech, actually since the mid-'90s, and there's never been an environment like this.

You're right, Secretary Hexeth, never.

that it's going to take to make this happen over the long term.

Look, I think all of it.

I think you begin with energy, the utilization of energy, using that well, power, and then move into compute, the way we utilize compute, build our data centers, build the entire system networking.

Coherence matters a lot.

I think people undervalue that.

They don't understand it.

Not all compute is the same.

Wiley, can you just give us a little bit of the history, Antonio, of your relationship with Elon Musk and how you've become one of his closest partners, both in business and in life?

that's unique perspective i don't hear a lot of that um and so you after georgetown you kind of go to law school and you founded mg capital while in law school if i'm correct which i consider like the precursor to valor your first real real fun yeah um and one thing you did in that was help scale a plating company if i'm correct from 10 million to 120 million dollars in revenue now that same time you met um David Sachs at law school and then you also met through him if I'm correct Elon um so I'm super interested in that kind of time in your life it seems like it was extremely extremely kind of formative it opened many doors so I'd love for you to just like tell me about the what the chapter of your life was like um and what doors do you think it opened uh yeah

I mean so there was a stop between there and Goldman Sachs so I finished uh you know I finished um undergrad I did two years undergrad one year in Japan and then two years grad school at Georgetown School of Foreign Service okay I went to Goldman almost by accident.

I went to Goldman Sachs, wanted to be a development economist, so I went to Georgetown and then didn't like it.

I had a job at the bank as a consultant.

I worked there and didn't like it, so I ended up going to Goldman.

When I was at Goldman, I realized that I really wanted to make something.

I wanted to make a product for a living.

But that was really just – we were really

If you had to, just based on what you've seen so far, a range?

I mean, here, here's what I'd say.

So if you go into any company, any company you guys have ever seen that is not like super well run, it probably is like easy cut 15%.

Easy, easy, easy.

Um, this is where the 15, this is where the, the, the trillion dollar number came from, 15% of, of $7 billion.

I think if we had the political will, you'd easily get that 15%, no problem.

Um, not without any problem at all and without cutting the core, uh, entitlement programs.

And you got people coming back to work in the office.

Tell us about your story and how you met Elon and what people should know about him.

Uh, well, so I met Elon, um, because of PayPal.

So, I went to law school with David Sacks and David Sacks was the chief 00:02:18] PayPal.

And so we invested in PayPal.

That's how I first met him, and then invested.

We were the first institutional investors in Tesla and, you know, we're operating guys by training, right? Built It has now infected, uh, the government.

It's infected many of our children.

Yes.

What are your theories?

Well, the answer is no, categorically no, because the program really started in 2017.

So they probably worked on it before that, right? It takes a few years to put this into place.

They worked at it, my guess is, back during the Obama administration.

It actually became active in 17.

You see a few numbers in 18, and it starts to get a little bigger in 19 and 20, right? So that's how we get this baseline number of 19 and 20.

That's why we're using that data here.

What do you think is the construction of what sounds to some to be a conspiracy? And how much of this is really like widely understood?

What are your theories?

Well, th- the answer's no. Categorically no, because the, the program really started...

It, it started in 2017, so they probably worked on it before that, right? A few things, a few years put these into place.

They worked at it, my guess is, you know, back during the Obama administration.

It actually became active in '17.

You see a few numbers in '18 and it starts to get a little bigger in '19 and '20, right? So that, that's how we get this baseline number of 19 and 20.

That's why we're using that data here.

Right.

Yeah, this is a mind-blowing chart.

Yeah, this literally blew us away.

We went there to find fraud, and we found this by accident.

And this isn't political, by the way.

My parents are immigrants.

Yeah, this country's been great to us.

My brother and sister are all born in Spain.

now.

They're long but it's- it's incredible information you need to arm yourself with, so I'm gonna hand my show over to Antonio Thankful and allow him to elaborate for all of us.

Once you're in the country and you've got asylum, do one of these pathways and we've mapped the whole thing out, uh, you can apply for a work document.

You file a 765, it's the work form.

You get this form called a 766, that's the authorization, and then Social Security Administration automatically send you in the mail your Social Security number.

No interview, no ID.

Look, if I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure I'd have believed it.

I went through it myself and mapped it and Elon is right, this is true.

Did you think- did you think they opened up the border because they were nice? Did you think they just wanted some cheaper pupusas? Or did you think this was all about power?

That's, well, not only concerning, but of course something that we kind of already knew to be true.

When we saw these numbers, we were like, "What is this?" In '21, you see 270,000, uh, people.

Goes all the way to 2.1 million in '24.

These are non-citizens that are getting Social Security numbers.

Once you're in the country and you've got asylum through one of these pathways, and we mapped the whole thing out, uh, you can apply for a work document.

You file a 765, it's the work form.

You get this form called the 766, that's the authorization.

And who did vote.

Next day, no ink.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The, I, I mean, everything.

It was g- it's incredible.

And but, but, uh, flowers were impeccable, food being made fresh every day for thousands of people and thrown away, um, three times a day, tossed in the garbage.

Wouldn't give it to the homeless.

It was just, it was shockingly bad.

Do you have concerns about that in the American economy and globally?

We got there on, yeah, the Halloween weekend and we started whiteboarding and- You

know, no ink.

Next time, no ink.

Yeah.

I mean, everything.

It's incredible.

But flowers were impeccable.

Maybe you could talk a little bit about how the shock and awe campaign of just freezing spending and then seeing, hey, what actually is necessary to accomplish this task worked out at Twitter, and then how you see that being executed, you know, inside of our government.