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Antonio Casilli

Antonio Casilli

Professor and sociologist

Oct 20, 2026

24:12
40%?
24:13
Yes.
24:14
And most of those are in Northern Virginia, then a lot in Texas.
24:19
and California and so on.
24:22
Europe has a few.
24:24
China, India.
24:26
Basically, I'm trying to say this has been so far mainly a northern hemisphere thing.

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34:46
Are they mad? Are the tech titans better at winning people over than the US president?
17:08
And so the issue is that the quicker you want to go, the more human mistake you do, and then you say, oh, it's not a human, it's the AI that is too powerful.
17:18
And yes, if I can add something, I think that there is a contradiction here and even a paradox as Marion was already implying.
17:28
Sometimes these big tech guys and gurus are saying that AI is so powerful that we cannot stop it.
17:36
Nevertheless, they insist on the fact that we can stop it and actually we do stop it every day.
17:43
For instance, In my activity, what I do is I've been traveling in more than 30 countries, interviewing thousands of people whose work is to actually sometimes verify that AI is doing what it is supposed to do.
17:57
And it is not breaking the laws or doing something that is dangerous.
18:02
This is called alignment.

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33:45
is, Antonio Cazili, the fact that it's not the Trump administration that's going to regulate you.
34:49
but in sacks of rice or sugar.
34:53
Yeah.
34:53
Sure.
34:54
Yes.
34:54
This is something that, which is, uh, appalling, which is unfortunately very common.
35:00
First of all, let's focus on the, the estimates that the, um, the, uh, World Bank has been producing for a number of years because they started, uh, you know, conducting this kind of service and trying to estimate the number of people who perform online gig work.
35:15
We're not talking about gig workers, uh, like, I don't know, Uber drivers or, uh, uh, delivery, uh, persons, you know, delivery workers.

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42:15
And then we wanna get also to the way in which these organizers against, uh, these, uh, workers against impossible conditions are in fact trying to organize against their working conditions.
34:49
in sacks of rice or sugar.
34:53
Yeah.
34:53
Sure.
34:54
Yes.
34:54
This is something that which is, uh, appalling, which is unfortunately very common.
35:00
First of all, let's focus on the, the estimates that the, um, the, uh, World Bank has been producing for a number of years because they started, uh, you know, conducting this kind of service and trying to estimate the number of people who perform online gig work.
35:15
We're not talking about gig workers, uh, like, I don't know, Uber drivers or, uh, uh, delivery, uh, persons, you know, delivery workers.

7 MINS LATER

42:15
And then we want to get also to the way in which these organizers against, uh, these, uh, workers against impossible conditions are in fact trying to organize against their working conditions.
34:49
in sacks of rice or sugar.
34:53
Yeah.
34:53
Sure.
34:54
Yes.
34:54
This is something that, which is, uh, appalling, which is, uh, unfortunately very common.
35:00
First of all, let's focus on, uh, the estimates that the, um, the, uh, World Bank has been producing for a number of years, because they started, uh, you know, conducting this kind of service and trying to estimate the number of people who perform online gig work.
35:15
We're not talking about gig workers, uh, like, I don't know, Uber drivers or, uh, uh, delivery, uh, persons, you know, delivery workers.

7 MINS LATER

42:15
And then we wanna get also to the way in which these organizers against, uh, these, uh, workers against impossible conditions are in fact trying to organize against their working conditions.

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