have to

start from what you can, what the value add you can give and then move up The chain, the value chain, that's the aspiration.

It cannot be that you start there and remain there.

We have had the experience of 807.

And to a certain extent, we have warned and I've warned that my concern with the BPO sector, which I was very instrumental in getting going, particularly in getting the private sector.

deeper involved in it.

I remember the first loan that was made to a private investor to get into the BPO business.

What are the sort of protective mechanisms in the industrial policy that you will be seeing for 2026? What is sort of safeguards you would envision to protect that frame, protect the integrity of the frame so we can actually achieve true production and industrialization?