Wow

... right at the end of her, her, of her eulogy.

And then when I finished, uh, when I finished the eulogy, it was like packed church.

Um, walked outside the church, and there was this man waiting for me outside the church, um, who'd attended the funeral, and I'd never, never met him.

And this guy was like floods of tears, like so emotional and upset.

And he grabbed me hand and he said, "Thanks so much for that eulogy." He said, "I knew your grandma.

She was an absolute amazing woman." And then the same, the same night, I, uh, was at me grandma's house in the, in the living room, and, uh, I got a message, and it was the, the message was from the same guy, and he'd sent me a message saying, um, that he was feeling ...

Um, is there a book that stays with you, that you recommend to people, the book of you? [laughs]

It's beautiful, man.

When it was time to organize the funeral, um, there was conversations that came up who's gonna do grandma's eulogy, who's going to tell her story right at the end.

And none of the family members wanted to, uh, none of the family members wanted to do it.

And there was talks of saying the priest can do it, but me being me, um, always ...

I would always steamroll to a challenge.

Um, and I said, "Look." And I said, "I'm going to do the eulogy.

It ha- it has to be, it has to be me who's, who's doing her story.

Yeah

So what is the project? What is Never Throwing the Towel?

So it has...

It has many, many things under an umbrella.

And so I'll talk you through them.

So the first thing that I've done with the project was a free meetup in nature.

And I tailored it around everything that I love to do, to be honest.

But all of these things that I've put into this meetup were things that...

What is it about that environment that makes it possible for people to talk where they feel like they're not able to do that in other areas of their lives?