So how does a Pilates instructor change that mindset for an athlete to try it out?

Yeah, I mean, every athlete's different.

They all have different needs, different desires, um, different issues with their bodies.

I think, you know, the biggest thing for me working with you the last, uh, however many years is I had a lot of soft tissue injuries, um, throughout my whole career.

Like every year was a hamstring or a adductor.

And then, you know, when I was 20- in 2020, I was now seven, eight years into the league, kind of on the, you know, the back end of my career.

But it was like how can I, like, stretch this window out as long as possible to play, um, for, for as long as I can? And it was, "Let me, let me try Pilates," was a suggestion from Eric.

Yeah.

How, how did both those schools shape the player and person you've become?

For sure.

I mean, starting at Loyola, you know, their, their mantra's m- a man for others, you know? So, you're built...

It's an all-boys Jesuit, uh, Catholic school.

You know, so you're into going there, um, every day just with your boys, really, it seems like, and it, it allowed me to, um, meet a lot of diverse individuals, a lot of different type of people.

Um, so I became a, what's it? Tolerant about it.

I loved everybody, you know, and I think that really shaped me and molded me in the community service, the giving back aspect that they, um, that they preach.

Got it.