Because it ain't just

talk.

It is not like we hope this can happen.

No, this can happen if you do this, this, this.

Yeah, never yelled, but he always made you feel small.

I remember one time I was in film session, I shot a three pointer and he kept rewinding.

I'm like, I missed it.

Can you talk about that? So I met

Tell me about how involved, what... part did you play in that iron and then we'll talk about what what sort of role he you know what do you think he's going to be as

yeah what was your he had the current ad and bo who's just up to uh other ad as well and they put together Of course, guys went to Carolina and Steve reached out to the AD.

He was like, look, we're putting this board together.

We want to get this coaching search done right.

You have had some experience in the front office as far as doing this.

You know, there's a couple of names that stands out to you that might be outside of what you're looking into.

And there's a couple of NBA guys and Coach Winona came up and I played Steve.

time

Mm-hmm.

...

when we talk about OKC, we just don't...

Williams is great.

Don't get me wrong.

He's gonna be a...

He's a great young player.

Yeah.