What was that really like for you?

Yes.

Also, I do think we clicked right away, too.

I can totally remember the lunch we sat down next to each other at.

Full circle moment.

Now I'm having this conversation because I was actively trying to sell my mental health the first time we met.

And that deal that I actually got that weekend, I think, that deal offer fell through.

But then it has to be bridged into how we structure businesses, how we, you know, how we make policies and all of those things.

Annie, where were you in this beautiful world of ours? What was life like around you, and what was money like?

Oh.

[laughs] You, you just asked about probably the most pivotal and painful time in my life.

So between the ages of 10 and 12, I was a little girl growing up on an island off the coast of Maine, Mount Desert Island, home to Bar Harbor, Acadia National Park.

My biological father had left my mother when I was six years old and left us from a middle-class life.

It plunged us into, mm, basically poverty at that point.

My mom did everything she could to recover from that, including going back to work scrubbing people's toilets until she could get a healthcare position.

the direction of it?