Where would you like to see things get to by the end of this four years?

Sure.

Well, so this senate takes us all the way to 2030, which is obviously a date of significance internationally for biodiversity.

And so we do really need to see meaningful progress on our biodiversity and climate goals during the next four years.

But I'll sort of start off by just mentioning The kind of unfinished business from the last SENEV, if you like, because one of the last things that we saw the sixth SENEV do was pass the new Environment Act, the Environment Principles, Governance and Biodiversity Targets Act, which includes a number of requirements to get the frameworks in place to drive that sort of delivery forward.

So...

Legally binding biodiversity targets need to be brought forward within the next couple of years.

You were expecting the biggest challenges, Annie, to lie over the next four years, asking you to very much rub your crystal ball there.