so let's just go back a bit so you said you worked in the agency you worked in in marketing yeah so this is obviously quite a big jump between probably what you were doing before to what you were doing now How has your career sort of like flowed since leaving university?

Okay, so my career's definitely flowed quite a lot since university.

What did you study at university? So I studied political science and international relations.

I actually... don't know whether this will make the cut but I actually wanted to do fashion marketing because I didn't think I was that academic and then I got luckily we did ASs and so I actually got really good grades at ASs and so the school like I think you should do a broader academic thing subject to you know to see where you want to go so I did political science and international relations and But in the summers, I interned at a Cheltenham-based company called SLG.

And so then when I graduated... luckily it was in COVID and they really wanted me to work for them.

So it was fantastic.

So I managed to work in marketing at SLG for about nine months, but I was really itchy to get to London.

Yeah.