Anne Tergesen
Retired reporter
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Jun 9, 2026
Why the Social Security Shortfall Is Coming Sooner
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2:53Alex OssolaHOST
Anne Tergesen, who covers retirement and personal finance for The Journal, says there are a few reasons why the shortfall is coming earlier.
Anne TergesenGUEST
The tax cuts that Congress passed last year means that a lot of Social Security beneficiaries are not paying as much tax on their Social Security benefits.
Anne TergesenGUEST
Those declines mean that they're projecting fewer numbers of workers who are gonna be paying into the system in the future, and that means less revenue for the Social Security trust funds.
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3:33Alex OssolaHOST
But Anne says there's no need to panic quite yet, that the fund only pays for a portion of the overall Social Security benefits.
Anne TergesenGUEST
The payroll taxes that come in don't cover 100% of the benefits that have been promised, so we have to draw down on the trust fund, which is like a savings account that Social Security has amassed.
Private Credit Is in Turmoil–and Could Be in Your Future 401(k)
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Anne TergesenGUEST
401K plans have always had the ability to invest in alternative investments, but because of the fear of litigation, a lot of employers who run 401K plans have really shied away from alternative investments.
Anne TergesenGUEST
So President Trump this summer issued an executive order instructing regulators to make it easier for employers to add alternative investments to 401K plans.
Anne TergesenGUEST
What's new here is that the Labor Department provides sort of a legal framework that spells out for employers how they can add private investments and other alternatives to their plans, steps that they need to take to adequately vet these investments to qualify for what they're saying should be a safe harbor or sort of protection from litigation.
Imani MoiseHOST
And who are the biggest critics of this proposal, and what's their argument against it?
Anne TergesenGUEST
They don't like the thought of having litigation restricted, but there's also consumer rights groups, and they argue that these are illiquid, often opaque investments, and that they have higher fees, so that the argument that private investments are gonna actually help 401K investors just doesn't hold up.
America's Road to a DIY Retirement
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If you're still young enough, there's time for the market to recover-
Anne TergesenGUEST
People were really worried about the reliance on, of 401[k]s on stock market risk, and some fraction of the experts I, I spoke to were willing to throw in the towel on the 401[k] and declare it a failed experiment, and people were coming up with alternative ideas.
Anne TergesenGUEST
Others wanted to find ways to go back to pensions, some kind of hybrid, just something that would, that would reduce the level of stock market risk.
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A lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people have some level of anxiety that that Social Security will be cut because Social Security's facing a funding shortfall that depending on, you know, who's doing the estimating, it- it's likely that it'll hit in like 2032, 2033, 2034, somewhere around there.
Private Equity and Crypto Could Be Coming for Your 401k
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During the first Trump administration, there was a Labor Department, um, guidance.
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So this guidance basically said, "It's okay with us if you want to offer private equity, but we want you to do it within a target date fund or, you know, some other kind of diversified fund." And then when Trump was reelected, private equity, private credit, private real estate asset managers, there was a lot of momentum among all of those players to bring more private market exposure to the 401(k) plan, and then recently, the White House issued an executive order ordering the Labor Department to work with other agencies to make this possible.
Anne TergesenGUEST
And so the executive order just directs the Labor Department to consult with other federal agencies to figure out what kind of changes are needed to make it easier for private markets to be adopted within 401(k)s, and I think it also sends a signal, right, to employers with 401(k) plans, "Oh, gee, you know, the government is sort of signaling that this is okay."
Anne TergesenGUEST
They make the argument that, you know, s- like say with private equity, for example, you have to lock your money up for X number of years, you know, with those funds.
What 401(k) Investors Need to Know About Private Markets
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First of all, you've got the target date fund providers, right? So here in this case we had State Street partnering up with Apollo to offer – a target date fund with private investments in it.
Anne TergesenGUEST
And now State Street also offers target date funds without private investments, right? So it's just basically expanding its product line to say to plan sponsors, to the employers, If you want private investments here, take, you know, you can choose, you know, our new target date fund that includes them.
Anne TergesenGUEST
So, yeah, so the state streets, the vanguards, the target date fund providers of the world have to make the decision to add it to their target date funds.
Anne TergesenGUEST
And then, you know, the second level is that plan sponsors, the employers with 401k plans have to make the decision themselves.
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Workers Are Saving Almost What They Should Be for Retirement
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Anne TergesenGUEST
Well, in recent years, more people are participating in 401(k) plans because more employers are automatically enrolling employees in the plans.
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A lot of people end up in the 401(k) plan without even having to take any action themselves, and that has really expanded the number of people in these plans.
Anne TergesenGUEST
Also, in recent years, more employers are starting 401(k) plans for reasons that include more generous tax benefits from Congress for companies to start up new plans, and also just a growing number of states are mandating that companies provide some kind of retirement savings plan.
Anne TergesenGUEST
And if they don't, they can put their employees into a state-run retirement savings program.
Anne TergesenGUEST
I mean, the separate issue is if you can't afford to do that, then a lot of 401(k) plans also have something called automatic escalation.
Americans Are Claiming Their Social Security Benefits Earlier
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Anne TergesenGUEST
There's s- something called the Social Security Trust Fund and because of the aging population, we don't have as many people paying into that as are taking money out.
Anne TergesenGUEST
So in about eight years' time, the Social Security trustees are projecting that that trust fund will run out, which doesn't mean the program (laughs) will go away at all.
Anne TergesenGUEST
All it means is that the incoming tax revenue will only be enough to cover about 80% of the benefits.
Anne TergesenGUEST
And then along comes Elon Musk and Doge, and there's been a lot of publicity in the news and on social media about the program targeting several thousand job cuts, reductions to the ability to claim your benefits on the telephone.
Want to Retire Before 65? Here’s What You Should Know
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So my colleague and I have been writing a series about what retirement looks like in America, and each one of these we interview four people, or sometimes it's four couples, about what retirement looks like to them, and usually there's some kind of theme.
Anne TergesenGUEST
In one case, we did what does retirement in America look like when you have a million dollars in savings or two million in savings? For this one, we wanted to look at what does retirement look like if you retire at age 55 or younger on the theory that a lot of people dream that early retirement is their goal.
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And on the flip side of that sort of dream or aspirational side of early retirement, there's a lot of people who write to me a lot, because I cover retirement, that they were forced into early retirement.
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So we got a bit of a reality check from these people in both positive and negative ways.
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And were there any other consequences, such as feelings of loneliness or isolation?
Why the 401(k) Has Become a Rainy Day Fund
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Is it easier now, Anne, to tap into this account than it has been in the past?
Anne TergesenGUEST
It actually is, and that's because of Congress, which over the past several years, there have been a number of legal changes, changes to the law that Congress has enacted that have made it easier. I... One that comes to mind is natural disasters. It used to be that after hurricanes or significant natural disasters, the IRS would say, "Okay, people living in a region affected by such and such hurricane can actually take X amount of money from their 401(k)." And a couple years ago, Congress just said, "Look, if it meets the definition of a federal natural disaster, (laughs) you can use that as a hardship reason." But Congress has been diligently making it easier for people to get access to this money in case of emergencies.
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Last year, nearly 5% of account holders took early withdrawals from their 401(k) accounts. That's a record high. What are the advantages and disadvantages to taking a hardship withdrawal?
Anne TergesenGUEST
Just to put it in context, the nearly 5% who took the hardship withdrawals, that's one way to get at money in your 401(k). Another way is to take 401(k) loans. So we're only looking at the hardship withdrawals here. And with the loans, you pay yourself back over time, so it's money coming out, but you put the money back. With the hardship withdrawal, you take the money out and that's it. You have to pay income taxes on it. If you're younger than 59 and a half, you probably have to pay a 10% penalty, not always, but generally. So there's a finality to that money coming out and you're not pledging to repay it. So that's a real downside to the hardship withdrawals. On the other hand, the advantage of it is that if you really are facing a financial emergency and you meet one of the definitions of a financial hardship, perhaps it's preventing foreclosure, perhaps it's paying medical bills, then y- you do have this pot of money to go to, and that's something that I think people are availing themselves of, and we, we see that with these numbers.
How Wealthy Americans Use Cash Balance Plans to Save Millions for Retirement
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But as a gross generalization, say a company has a couple partners who are in their 50s who maybe they got a late start with saving for retirement.
Anne TergesenGUEST
So maybe they're putting away $100,000 a year, right, into the cash balance plan on top of what they're already saving in the 401[k].
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But if you're earning $50,000 a year, you're gonna get, say, 5% to 7.5% whether you contribute or not in your 401[k] versus an owner who's putting away $100,000, $200,000, $300,000.
Ariana AspuruHOST
For someone whose employer offers this, what kinds of questions should they ask themselves before they sign up for it?
