But what is an aging plan? What do we need?

Yeah, an aging plan is, you know, my, my aging plan is where I facilitate the family meetings.

'Cause you can't expect a consumer to put their own plan in place if they think Medicare and Medicaid are the same program, or if they think assisted living and nursing homes are the...

You, you can't put...

You can't make informed decisions if you're making a decisions off of wrong information.

So this way we start from scratch.

Everybody round robin on Zoom, used to be Skype, but round robin on Zoom, what's working well, what's not working well, what's in place now, what is not in place, you know, what are the goals? Mom and Dad always have the same two goals.

So is it too late? If I'm in crisis already, is it too late?