You were in the hotels first, but then you were at Bathers as well.

Yes.

Well, I got a scholarship, best apprentice in Victoria, um, and then that got me a scholarship over to the UK.

So then I tried getting into Cla- uh, Claridge's Hotel, and I couldn't get in there, and then eventually got in.

And then I won best dessert in the UK, and I was the only female.

I was the youngest.

I was a commie, and everyone were executive chefs and head chefs.

And, and the element of defining what success is, it's all different for everyone else, but there can be some disasters that happen or some things that leave you not feeling very good.