Now that you've been to the Ukraine, did it give you that sense of purpose and meaning?

Yeah, of course.

I mean, you meet with Raisa, who is the founder of this organization.

And she basically did it because of her son.

And we met all of these mothers and all of these people who would get into institution if this organization wouldn't exist.

And for example, this hostel in Kiev, which will be closed.

It is such a simple building.

I was curious about how you see yourself in the field of architecture.