Yeah.

Right? And then it's a soft conversation.

So the facilitator watches the language of everyone so that it's kind.

Because there's no need to call each other names.

There's no need to escalate into defensiveness.

And then we take turns bringing up our topic.

So, for example, my topic of last week was I love to be witnessed.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Another hack to my brain I can offer, because I am...

I mean, I, I've talked to people who are antisemitic, who told me to, who hate women and have different opinions about strong women than I would like to, to, to build the world for my daughter.

So I have been many times in situations where I'm deeply triggered by somebody else's values.

And still, if I'm not able to offer them my full presence and my open mind, it's better for me not to have that conversation.

Because if I talk to them while preparing my answer in my head-

[laughs]

And that over and over again, the more I travel, the more I work with people, I can reassure them that the more they face the conflicts and have those difficult conversations, the better their relationships become and the better they'll get at it.

Mm.

Anger is an very important information.

And so the more we show to people our anger and we translate it to people, the better you are going to feel, more you're going to feel seen.

So let's imagine you got upset in a conversation because somebody said something that is unacceptable to you, or they crossed your boundary, right? Like, anger usually is, there is a good reason for it.

What I would do when I get angry, I would be, "Okay, I am feeling extremely angry right now.

It's hard for me to talk.

Can we talk about this?" Because I'm super curious about my anger.

Here we go.