Anna shares some examples of regional food systems that bypass some of these global shocks.

Hearing examples from partners in Kenya, for instance, where farmers have been trained on how to produce their own high-quality compost, not having to rely on synthetic fertilizers.

And then when you see this global shock happen, those farmers are much less impacted.

Or we have members who've been supporting work in Cambodia, again, producing nutrient-rich organic fertilizer, protein-rich animal feed, using natural inputs, you know, inputs from their farms.

I'm talking to you from Cuernavaca, Mexico, where we just spent time on a production farm yesterday that is producing bio-based fertilizer, a project called Sistema Bio that's been developing this really high-quality fertilizer using waste from the farm, animal waste, and no fossil fuels.

And they now have spread this technology across 68,000 farms all around the world.

I asked Anna Lappe, who runs an alliance of philanthropic foundations, for her thoughts on the role of philanthropy in supporting climate and food issues.

In a moment where I feel like there's so much bad news coming at us every day, where the ramifications of lack of action on climate are are costing lives.

Talk to us about your experience being a food expert and educator.

Sure.

Thanks, Sabrina.

Thanks for having us.

And Martin, it's great to hear you share that history and to be reminded of just what a historic win that was.

And I think all of us in Berkeley should feel so proud that we, in 2014, passed the first sugary drinks tax in the entire country.

After, as you said, Martin, the industry had effectively blocked all community organizing, every city that had tried before us.

What would a 30 to 50% reduction in school garden funding mean for Berkeley students and families?