And so what is the most important thing that you think is necessary for helping a child to understand themselves, their context, and then to thrive within that context post-adoption?

I think there's a lot of layers to it, right? I mean, I think picking one thing would be very hard because there's just so many...

Everybody has a unique story, and everyone has different layers to, and different ages, right? As they grow up, there are different questions that are being asked and different things that come up.

So I think narrowing it down to one thing might be [laughs] a challenge.

But I think open, I always say honesty.

From a very, very young age, a child should never remember the day that they were told they were adopted, right? Like, they should never remember that day.

And so it's just so incorporated into the conversation.

... helping those for whom it's not possible to have that piece, how do we best do that?