So why did you pick real estate then with that background? Just real estate sales just because?

No, that's a good question.

So actually, when I graduated from the MBA program, I don't even get to tell you the year it was, but it was a while ago.

And I wanted to go into commercial real estate, but the commercial real estate business was in a real slump.

So I couldn't get in and there were just no opportunities.

And so I went off and I did something else for a few years, but then we moved.

We moved out of the country.

Oh, it is