So, like, what was going on in your head when you went into finance and then into food?

food?Yeah.

Um, so if you're following the timeline, I graduated from college in 2002, a year after the tech bubble burst, and I graduated from Kellogg in '09, a year after Lehman crashed.

[laughs] So I, uh, I joke around, next time I go back to school we should all just short the market, but, uh, [laughs] some- something, something big will happen.

Um, so, you know, I worked so hard to get this summer internship, um, in sales and trading.

It, it wasn't easy coming from Kellogg because, again, there are Kellogg people in finance, it's just not a ton of positions, so there's maybe one position for the summer at every single bank.

Um, fortunate enough to get a position there, and then the summer of 2008 the h- the higher rate out of an internship was, I think, 30 or 40%.

... and they don't think about that business end.