But, like, what is the story that you've had to tell yourself to, to be able to get to that place and insofar that it, like, changed within you that I-- you're like, "Oh, I actually, like, I kinda wanna do this from a career standpoint"?

Yeah.

I know this might sound a little cliche, especially to my, like, fellow therapists that are listening, but I really told myself, "You have to do the hard things.

You have to do the challenging things.

You have to force yourself outside of your comfort zone." And I learned a lot of that when I was o- when I owned my group practice.

I had to learn everything, right? Because I didn't necessarily have the money or the funding to, like, you know, get, put it, you know, invest in somebody to do the work for me.

So a lot of the things, I had to read the Harvard Business reviews.

in tech or other sort of business fields that feels, like, a little bit scary.