like a

thing yet after that job.

during the panini, I moved back to Los Angeles.

I was like, I've had enough New York.

You can't take my soul too.

Like the pandemic has done me in, you know? And I transferred into sustainability only.

So I left design behind because I just felt like I was part of the problem basically, you know? Lo and behold, like I learned many, many lessons through this experience because after that I managed, I was the head of sustainability at two huge companies.

It's really good for you, but now we have to educate you on all the things around it.