Angus, the floor is yours.

Uh, thanks very much, uh, Markus.

It's a real pleasure to be back here.

Um, let me start by just saying that I, I've known...

I was, I was trying to think back, but I think I've known Larry for more than forty years.

If it was much longer than that, uh, it would be his teenage years, and I think he was just a very young twenty-year-old when I first met him.

Um, I mean, we've been friends for a long time.

Yes, I think it would be, uh, good to also go a little bit into the future and how do we-- and what should we do? Uh, let's not only focus on the past, but what should we do now given the current circumstances, and, uh, w- what are the right direction or whether there's some agreement on that dimension.

Yes, perfectly.

So Anne Case and I have just published a book called Dots of Despair and the Future of Capitalism, published by Princeton University Press in March.

I can tell you the middle of a pandemic is a terrible time to publish a book if you want to sell copies.

For those of you who'd like to get a copy, Amazon is very slow.

So support your local independent seller, many of whom are selling the book, like Labyrinth Books and Princeton.

So let me tell you, I'm gonna talk today about deaths of despair in the book and how that links up with what's happening now with the COVID crisis.

So our book is, let me start with the background, which is a synopsis of the book.

Is it possible to separate the two?