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Angelo Dube

Angelo Dube

Professor of international law at the University of South Africa (UNISA), leading its aviation training initiative and appearing as "the Flying Jurist."

Oct 10, 2026

9:11
Mm
9:11
... that is geared towards aviation.
9:12
We're simply strengthening that by bringing in more aviation-related modules.
9:17
For instance, in, in, in my college, the College of Law, we are developing a master's in, in, in, in aviation law.
9:23
Uh, it's both a- an LLM, which would cater for lawyers coming in with an LLB, and then we have an MPhil that we're developing that would cater for those who are coming in from other disciplines, whether they're coming in with a, a bachelor of engineering.
9:36
But as long as it is NQF level eight, you can then be absorbed into the master's, the MPhil, because you're coming from a non-legal background.
9:44
And then we have PhDs as well.
13:28
Mm
14:00
But given that South Africa has, or at least the government has categorically rejected xenophobia and describes the protection of everyone within South African borders as a constitutional imperative, what evidence would be required to elevate xenophobia? And I also don't want to diminish the fact that we have seen criminal attacks against foreign nationals, but what evidence would be required to elevate these attacks into an international crime that you could attribute to a state or an organizational policy? Mm-hmm.
14:31
Thanks for that question.
14:32
It's a very critical question because it is not every little criminal act that must go to the ICC.
14:41
If someone shoplifts at ShopRite, you can't run to the ICC for such, you know, a petty crime.
14:46
So coming to the situation at hand, people marched.
14:50
People called for...
14:52
Then law enforcement, as far as, you know, the immigration situation is concerned, as far as undocumented or unlawfully, people who are unlawfully in the country are concerned.

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20:44
Yeah.

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