
Angela Rachidi
Senior Fellow and Rowe Scholar in Poverty Studies at American Enterprise Institute; expert on welfare policy, SNAP, and social safety net programs.
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Jun 23, 2026
The U.S. needs a new safety net | Angela Rachidi
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Angela RachidiGUEST
Yes, that's a that's a great question, because I think there's when people again, if we and I think we agree that there's general consensus that this is a problem.

Angela RachidiGUEST
So and that's that's kind of a bipartisan agreement that that benefit cliffs are a problem.

Angela RachidiGUEST
Where does that stand in terms of various organizations as well as policymakers thinking about solutions? I can very simplistically put them into two camps.

Angela RachidiGUEST
One camp is those who believe or find it acceptable to to simply increase income eligibility limits higher up the income scale so that then you can phase out benefits at a slower rate and you can overcome these cliffs from a design perspective.
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29:22Nick DunnHOST
What's the first thing that comes to mind? What would you build if you could do that?