Do you think those type of people, Angela, it's about... their upbringing and the values that are instilled in them, or do you think that it's just a quality within that just lets people shine?

I think it's a bit of both.

Like, I think probably from my family, they probably always grew up in small communities where respect was... high, I think, as a child to respect your elders and to respect other people and other people's knowledge and things like that.

So I think as a child, it was very evident to me that the community thought well of dad.

Like you said, they'd always come and have a chat with him.

And if there was other property owners that ever needed to nut anything out, it would kind of be dad that they would come to.

And I do think, you know, we grew up on a cattle station and dad was a station hand, obviously.

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