So anyway, how do you strike a balance? How do you see that playing out from your position?

Yeah, of course.

So there's so many different ways that films can get made.

You can use your own money, which I tend to advise new filmmakers to try not to do as much as you can.

I see lots of nods next to me.

There are companies, so PBS SoCal, we'll do an acquisition fee and we'll bring in filmmakers and filmmakers around the community and there may be a fee that we give to it.

And then the rights, it depends on the deal.

And I hope that's an inspiration.