I'd love your, your input on, on this one, Andy, over the past five to 10 years, even would you, where, where do you say the level of competition is today compared to where it was last year, five years ago, even, even further back?

Well, I'll take it back to when we started, I guess.

Uh, and I think something probably interesting about us too, is that Susie or I didn't show in 4-H.

Uh, we weren't raised around livestock.

I grew up in the city, played sports and was involved in racing and Maya came home our oldest and wanted to get a pig for 4-H to show at the fair.

So I said, okay, we'll figure it out.

And, uh, you know, getting into it, I thought, Oh, you feed these things a little bit, try to keep them clean, go to the pig show, get your ribbon and go home.

For that segment of the population out there, Andy, that are thinking about, okay, maybe I don't have a background in 4-H and similar to where, where you and your wife were and they're wanting to come into this, say that, that first year show dad or show mom, what, what would you tell them in terms of, Hey, here's, here's a good starting place and here's what maybe there is to expect.