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Um, I know that Screech lived, uh, you know, I think a couple communities north of, uh, Bayside here.

Um, we do not have a high school, but we have the middle school here.

So yeah, my journey actually began in the Twin Cities area up by Mike.

I was going to, um, Hamline Law School and gonna do a dual program within public administration, and while my mind was in law school, my heart was not.

I went for a whole day and a half and realized that that's not something I wanted to do.

I thought it was one of those prerequisites.

What makes you, what draws you to giving back to the profession in that way? And then my second part of that question is, like, what advice do you give to the, to the newcomer in this profession who maybe wants to do some of these things? So, w- uh, why do you do it, and what advice would you give to somebody else?