But how much emphasis do you place, and let's maybe talk in ages, let's say for the predominant club swimmers, I don't know, nine, 10 years old through to like 13, 14, how much when we look at, say, a week of training is actually emphasized around letting the kids figure some of these things out versus here's the session, here's the plan, and just do what I say?

Yeah.

So you, you, you're working on not...

I, I think the, the key thing for people listening and, and coaches listening, it isn't an on/off, uh, kind of, uh dichotomy.

It's not, uh, this way or that way.

You're looking at a, a continuum, and if you can put the, the kids you have, uh, their needs on that continuum, you can kind of answer that one.

A complete, um, uh, explorative like discovery end of the continuum is just free, like freedom to just choose and do whatever they want.

So can you just take us through a little bit of that? And I think for coaches that don't sit in that academic space in terms of research, what are some of the headline things from an accessibility point of view to help them get into that and understand it?