So Andy, so now that, when's the moment when you're working with teams where you can move towards the sprint scale? I mean, when do you know you have alignment?

Yeah.

Actually, it typically happens pretty quickly once we start getting into the actual work.

So you mentioned a line sprint scale.

So the sprint side is in our process, we bring together principles that Business people are very familiar with sort of agile principles, as well as some of the science of human development.

But in the process, we have everybody identify on behalf of this shift that we need to make.

What's the capability that...

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