
Andy Clark
Business strategist and creator of The Whole PIE System™, author of "Getting the Whole PIE," who helps small business owners build more profitable, impactful, and enjoyable companies.
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Sep 28, 2026
How To Create An Authentic Whole Pie, with Author of Getting The Whole Pie, Andy Clark!
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Marques OgdenHOST
How does being authentic help you to excel in the chosen career path you've done as an advisor to small business owners?

Andy ClarkGUEST
I spent a lot of my time, Marcus, in my professional life really not being authentic.

Andy ClarkGUEST
I really enjoyed learning about business and entrepreneurship more so than I enjoyed being part of a law firm and being part of a law firm culture.

Marques OgdenHOST
What do you think is the biggest challenge that small business owners face in trying to break through that half million to $5 million range to get to the medium-sized businesses? But what you and I both know, unfortunately, right, Andy, most small businesses don't make it.
326. Moneyball Thinking for Your Small Business—Andy Clark, Creator, The Whole PIE System
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8:57Tom DuForeHOST
Do I got to change my whole business or I've heard of, or I tried this other thing and it didn't work.

Andy ClarkGUEST
So I tell everybody, quite frankly, having an operating system like EOS, like whole pie, great game of business.

Andy ClarkGUEST
Having one is more important than the one you choose, right? So unless if you are already using a system, Mr.
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12:44Tom DuForeHOST
Talk through the enjoyment piece a little bit about kind of revitalizing that or maybe measuring or what do you do in that piece of the pie?
Episode 1290:How to Get the Whole PIE in Business with Andy Clark
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Andy ClarkGUEST
Yeah, I got started, uh... my professional career started, Seth, as a, as a corporate lawyer, um, working with business owners for about a dozen years.

Andy ClarkGUEST
And, um, uh, and most of those business owners were, you know, where I was from in Atlantic Canada.
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Why Rental Portfolios Stall at $5M: Profit, Impact, and Enjoyment with Andy Clark
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Andy ClarkGUEST
The whole PI system, when you implement it into your business, it's a very step-by-step structured approach.

Andy ClarkGUEST
And like I say, there's, you know, if we want to get into kind of the bells and whistles of it, there's, there's, there's kind of two key components of the system.

Andy ClarkGUEST
We, we get, you know, your people in the right seats, that kind of Jim Collins type stuff.
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Brian HamrickHOST
know what those metrics should be? Is it just obvious or does it sometimes take someone like you to point them out what they need to be?