Tell us about that decision.

Exactly.

So why we started clear was myself, my partner, we love exploring days out, walks out.

We love entering a free competition as well.

I was looking up to win some Westlife tickets for free on here recently.

Although what we found was every time you actually tried to find an event that was happening in your area or, you know, a discount code or whatever it might be, you'd have to go to 10 different websites to get to the bottom of actually where you needed that information.

So it got to the point where I said, you know, there actually is a need here to have somewhere we can go and actually find out what's going on that's genuinely free, that is a good offer in your area, in one place, and that's how Freebie started.

It's a really interesting idea.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, Wilder came along a year later, born here in Australia.

War ends, um, the father, Coley, is still in the Navy for the next 15 years or so.

So Wilder then moves to America with his, with his mum, uh, and, and they f- they follow the dad around to naval bases all over America and the Philippines, and that's part of the trauma that the experts talk about that, you know, he never settled, he never made friends, he was constantly moving schools, you know, all, all that kind of background.

And then at 15, it wasn't a happy marriage, his parents, and at 15 when his dad retired from the Navy, Wilder's mom gave him an ultimatum that she was going back to Australia and taking, um, Wilder, and his brother at that stage, um, and he could follow her or he could, or he could stay in America.

He followed her, and they built the house in Ryde.

Ri- Wilder was 15 at that age.

Yeah.