What, what made you start becoming interested in this topic? What motivated you to say, "Hey, this is a talk I need to put together and share on the, uh..." well, for lack of better words, on the conference circuit?

Well, it was a combination of, of, of listening to some, you know, very, very smart people in the field over the years talking about various teaching strategies and highly behavior analytic terminology.

Every now and then, m-me thinking It's hard to talk to somebody outside of the field using the same terminology to talk about what we're doing and why we're doing it.

And then I started thinking a little bit about the, the core words in our field are, you know, we all do an ABC analysis.

We look at antecedent behavior and consequence.

And this is ground in, that's what everybody does, and obviously, and I understand the why.

But, but I also found that there was too many people who were see-seemingly getting stuck on finding the antecedent for the behavior with the consequence.

Mm.