What specific decisions by this governor would you reverse immediately when you are governor?

Well, I can think of several.

Number one, um, she tore down the physical barriers that Governor Ducey put, uh, had put in place.

Uh, she also defunded the Border Security Strike Force.

Um, so we'll g- come back with that.

I will also i- immediately appoint a border chief, um, to, to help our, our sheriffs and our local law enforcement and our DPS all, all coordinate on that.

It's kind of like a, a fusion center for the border.

Yes.

What specific decisions by this governor would you reverse immediately when you are governor?

Well, I can think of several.

Number one, she tore down the physical barriers that Governor Ducey had put in place.

She also defunded the border security strike force.

So we'll come back with that.

I will also immediately appoint a border chief to help our sheriffs and our local law enforcement and our DPS all coordinate on that.

It's kind of like a fusion center for the border.

And that could be used as a rallying cry just to compare Hobbs agenda or her accomplishments or lack thereof to the previous administration.

What is your message to the American people, and particularly the Arizona voters, to get them out to vote?

Yeah, that this is truly the most critical race in the country.

Um, you can't do four more years of Katie Hobbs.

She is as radical as Newsom.

Let's, let's just look at some pe- some of the people that endorse her.

I mean, we're talking Kamala, you're talking Obama, you're talking...

Obama just endorsed El-Sayed this morning.

Uh, what are you hearing about other races around the country and your optimism about holding onto the House?

What is your number one priority, Congressman? So the, the moment you get into the governor's mansion, what do you wanna do for Arizona?

First of all is affordability and affordable single-family housing.

I mean, uh, this governor has made it more expensive.

She's made us, she's taken us from one of the most affordable states to one of the least affordable states.

We're the, we're worse than education.

We, we're dead last in Arizona, uh, excuse me, in the nation in educational attainment, Grant.

So we're, we're gonna take on that issue as well.

Do you feel like Arizona is shored up enough, or is this gonna have to be a too big to rig situation, uh, to ensure that you win?

Uh, how would you, uh, work with, uh, Congress if you were to become governor?

Well, uh, what happens is, first of all, she's vetoed more bills than any other governor in Arizona history, 541 bills in three years.

That isn't what I would call a bipartisanship effort.

Um, but what happens is, when I was the Senate President, I'd- and in Congress, I've demonstrated we can find issues that we can work together on.

So for instance, water would be one of those.

How about rural healthcare? Um, she wouldn't even let my team help- draft, uh, the application, and as a result, she turned in an application that produced...

We got less money on the rural healthcare than Maryland, for Pete's sakes.

Should there be moratoriums? Should there be, you know, uh, prohibitions of NDAs? Uh, what's your take on the data centers?

How is that going to bring costs down in, uh, for Arizona, and is the word getting out about that agenda?

Well, we're trying to get that word out, and here's the way it works is, is we're gonna attack taxes first.

You bring down taxes, that puts more money in people's pockets.

You, uh...

We're gonna reduce regulation.

You do- reduce regulation, that allows businesses and entrepreneurs to actually thrive and create more jobs.

They create more jobs, guess what? More people work, and right now in Arizona, we have more people out of the workforce than at any time in the last 10 years.

And yet, you know, you have her being propped up by the media, being propped up, uh, uh, by, by the Democrat Party and, you know, i- in striking distance of staying in office and also winning the legislature, wh- which would be an unmitigated disaster for the state.

How is that going to bring costs down in, uh, for Arizona, and is the word getting out about that agenda?

Well, we're trying to get that word out, and here's the way it works is, is we're gonna attack taxes first.

You bring down taxes, that puts more money in people's pockets.

You, uh...

We're gonna reduce regulation.

You do- reduce regulation, that allows businesses and entrepreneurs to actually thrive and create more jobs.

They create more jobs, guess what? More people work, and right now in Arizona, we have more people out of the workforce than at any time in the last 10 years.

And yet, you know, you have her being propped up by the media, being propped up, uh, uh, by, by the Democrat Party and, you know, i- in striking distance of staying in office and also winning the legislature, wh- which would be an unmitigated disaster for this state.

And so can you clear up if there's some clearing up that can be done with that issue?

Yeah, so let's take it.

They're making two allegations.

And what's weird is that the people making the allegations, Katie Hobbs, vetoed 11 bills that would have protected children from predators, pedophiles and sexual pornographers.

So.

Here's the way to think about it.

If you look up in Northern Arizona, Colorado City, the individual that they say I protected was actually already in prison in Texas before any legislation was even introduced in Arizona.

continue to be the best in the nation as far as conserving water, but also make sure we're doing the right thing by our citizens to make sure it's not as so expensive, it's prohibitive for businesses.

And so can you clear up if there's some clearing up that can be done with that issue?

Yeah, so let's take it.

They're making two allegations.

And what's weird is that the people making the allegations, Katie Hobbs, vetoed 11 bills that would have protected children from predators, pedophiles and sexual pornographers.

Here's the way to think about it.

If you look up in Northern Arizona, Colorado City, the individual that they say I protected was actually already in prison in Texas before any legislation was even introduced in Arizona.

And in 2012, I voted for the bill that would have changed the way that law enforcement was done.

continue to be the best in the nation as far as conserving water, but also make sure we're doing the right thing by our citizens to make sure it's not as so expensive, it's prohibitive for businesses.

How would you expand educational options for parents while also ensuring that traditional public schools have the teachers, resources, and facilities they need?

Well, this is another one of those questions we could spend hours on, but I'll go very quickly here.

So ESA is, is Arizona's ESA program is, is like the leader in the nation.

Our charter school movement is the leader in the nation.

We have hundreds of thousands of kids involved in both of those programs.

And, um, And we'll protect the school choice.

So let me give you some just one aspect of this that's important.

What would your administration do to address drug trafficking, human trafficking, property crime, and violent crime? And how would you measure the effectiveness of those efforts?

So is Arizona, the people who live in Arizona, there's two important things, that you cut out the voter fraud, Do you believe that most of the voter fraud has been cut out?

There's been a significant dent in it in various counties.

So the biggest county is Maricopa County, five and a half million people in it.

That's the one that has always been a big problem.

The new elections officer came in and basically cleaned up the voter rolls.

And when he cleaned up the voter rolls, he took hundreds of thousands of you know illegal dead people you know whose names shouldn't be on there which helps so our primary election john you're not gonna believe it we actually knew a primary evening the results of the primary election that i mean that's just like the first time that i can remember in a long time that it hasn't taken two or three weeks and then uh so they've done a pretty good job there we have some counties that that still are not so hot is anybody doing anything about it The state is, but we're kind of stuck.

You've got a Democrat secretary of state, so he runs the elections.

What is their big beef with the Republicans?

The people that were voting Democratic, what is their big beef with the Republicans?

So what their issue is, so if you're if you're left wing right now and you're Democrat, you're you think the state's going in the right direction.

And so you've got a lot of environmentalists, for instance.

So we have a governor who's basically shut down a building of homes in a lot of places.

She's attacked our water supply.

And so they wanted, what they would like to do is they'd like to shrink Arizona a little bit.

So that's what they're trying to do.

Anything else you want to tell the American people this Sunday morning?

The people that were voting Democratic, what is their big beef with the Republicans?

So what their issue is, so if you're if you're left wing right now and you're Democrat, you're you, you think that state's going in the right direction.

And so you got a lot of environmentalists for instance.

So we have a governor who's basically shut down a building of homes in a lot of places.

She's attacked our water supply.

And so they wanted, what they would like to do is like to shrink Arizona a little bit.

So that's what they're trying to do.

Anything else you want to tell the American people this Sunday morning?

Um, why don't you give us a big overarching view of the race, where we're at, the current state of play? Uh, I want everybody to feel like they're in this moment with you because we are, Congressman.

Yeah, you guys have been great.

I appreciate it.

Um, look, we're, we're neck and neck with, uh, someone who has spent $20 million defaming me.

Okay, so that's, that's, that's, that's been her modus operandi.

She refuses to debate.

I just did a, a, a 45-minute segment on Spanish language, uh, uh, podcast, and, um, she, she won't step out, uh, to talk about any policy.

Totally.

So what else is she lying about?

Oh, my goodness.

I mean, she said that she reduced utility costs in Arizona.

Untrue.

Utility costs are up.

She said she fixed the a housing affordability crisis in Arizona.

Untrue.

It's just sort of like we every so often hear about her because she – you know is involved in some scandal yeah she screwed up the water or she's involved in some scandal with some sunshine group that you know she she uh kicks gives some kickbacks too that's basically all i hear and then she vetoes good bills that's literally all i know about katie hobbs that's it well that's all i know

Well, they probably just invest in a bunch of mutual funds like I do.

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then they have some kind of complex fee structure.

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I mean, this has to be incredibly frustrating because basically she's running on a lie and refusing to step into the debate ring, and I think this is the reason why, because she wouldn't be able to, to, w- you know, withstand your questions a- about what she's claiming to have done and absolutely has not.

Yeah.

I mean, she can't defend her record.

I mean, and James, she said that she reduced, uh, the utility rates.

She said she, she, uh, fixed the housing affordability crisis.

She said she, uh, came up with no tax on tips.

All of those are untrue.

I mean, the education freedom tax credit, what is Arizona leaving on the table by not opting in, and why do you think Governor Hobbs won't do it?

And I think this is the reason why, because she wouldn't be able to, to, w- you know, withstand, you know, questions a- about what she's claiming to have done and absolutely has not.

Yeah, I mean, she can't defend her record.

I mean, and James, she said that she reduced, uh, the utility rate.

She said she, she, uh, fixed the housing affordability crisis.

She said she, uh, came up w- with no tax on tips.

All of those are untrue.

All of those are untrue, just like everything else she is saying right now.

What is Arizona leaving on the table by not opting in, and why do you think Governor Hobbs won't do it?

How exactly would that change with you? How do the parents become more involved in the decision-making and in involvement with their kids at school?

Well, first of all, she vetoed legislation that would have given parents access to curriculum and to see what their kids are being taught, which seems to me, as a father of six children, I really want to know what they're being taught.

As a grandfather, I want to know what my kids are being taught.

She vetoed that legislation.

But the other aspects to it that are so important, Greg, are We have school districts that are bringing stuff in that's inappropriate.

She's okay with this trans grooming stuff that is actually going on in some districts in Arizona.

So I'm not okay with that.

But

It changes all the time.

Yeah, well, I mean, they want to pack the court because they're upset ideologically.

They don't like Donald Trump, so they think this is a court that just supports Trump.

But Trump, believe me, has been pretty angry at this court, as you know, periodically, because he's lost.

So nine, it's been for 150 years, there's been nine justices on the Supreme Court, and we think that should continue going forward.

Rather than turning it into a political football so that the next group that comes in, so the Democrats pack it at 13, which by the way, they have said they want to do.

If they win the majority, they say they're gonna pack it at 13.

What has been her response thus far?

If you were investigating a potential quid pro quo involving the governor, wouldn't the governor herself be one of the most important witnesses you would want sitting across the table answering follow-up questions?

absolutely and and the so here's what also i thought was odd about it well first of all let's just democrat attorney general democrat governor and um then this all this money takes exchanges hands 400k for 4 million roughly so if if the reality is that you you don't think the governor did something maybe somebody on her on her team did or something like that Then where is that indictment? You know what I mean? So if it's not the governor, who is it? Are you just telling me that this just happened organically? That this just, oh, this is par for the course type of thing? I mean, that's really part and parcel to the problem is uh because chris may said there was there was something stinky that went here it has to be fixed this has to be fixed and wendy rogers got a bill through earlier that that should have fixed it ostensibly tj show put a bill on governor hobbs desk but she she vetoed that one of like so many and so i find myself just saying where is where who who should have been indicted then You said there was this massive problem that has to be fixed, number one.

Number two, you can't find a quid pro quo directly with the governor.

But who on our staff then okayed the rate increase? And how did that come about? How did that come about?

What questions do you think Hobbs doesn't want to answer?

Well, any of them.

She doesn't want to say, how come you need an iPad to welcome Buc-ee's into Arizona? I mean, look, we're talking about everything that she has done in her record.

So how about she vetoes the Parents' Bill of Rights? She vetoes the legal definition of male versus female rights.

Now, as a lawyer, what does that tell you, and how significant is it that investigators never got Governor Hobbs to sit for an in-person interview?

Well, I mean, all those things are really questionable.

I mean, the, the notion that they were looking for a specific quid pro quo, um, is kind of rare.

It's one of...

That would be, that would be, like, uh, something you'd see on TV.

The real quid pro quos are when you see people exchanging dollars and then being rewarded later somehow, somewhere else, and that's what kind of happened here.

When you look at the allegations and you look at the evidence, you saw $400,000 change hands going in to directly benefit Katie Hobbs and her campaign and her inaugural fund and all of that.

Um, [laughs] what questions do you think Hobbs doesn't want to answer?

Mm-hmm.

Well, that's one of the consequences is that the m- you squeeze the credit market a little bit because the federal government is borrowing so much money.

But, but now getting back to, to the other issue, how do you get so where you can have, um, housing that's affordable? Um, a- and, uh, I don't know if you're aware, but the f- I think the average first-time homeowner is, uh, 41 years old today.

That's, that's absurd, uh, and really that suppresses everything.

And we...

You know, I'm, I'm not trying to make this a political talk, but I mean, we did have a governor who actually c- did a moratorium in t- the two fastest growing communities in Maricopa County and the state, and two of the top 10 fastest growing communities put a, a moratorium on building houses.

When you put a moratorium on building houses, and it went for three years before a court said, "Well, no, you, you didn't have authority," w- what you did is, is you actually create a scarcity which drives up cost.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, this is unreasonable, is it not?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, think of the American way.

I mean, we're Americans.

We stand up.

We say what's on our mind.

uh we defend our positions uh we debate uh and she won't stand up and and debate since that you know she's telling everybody she's going around the state that that's more important blah blah blah they're setting up all these little friendly little meetings with three four five people at a time so she can go in there and not be nervous and all that stuff and not have to defend her position that's what a debate does is james it's like like sometimes you guys ask me questions that Maybe less than comfortable, but I got to answer him because the public needs to know what that person thinks.

What do you say to the people that look at that and go, well, that's not what we need in Arizona?

Thanks for joining us.

Thanks, Tony.

Thanks for having me.

You know, uh, before the COVID situation took place, and- and I don't even call it a pandemic.

Let's just call it what it was.

It was, it was, uh, it was a, a, a terrible thing that happened and with a, was a disease that spread out.

But- but if you go before that, I'm thinking...

So, you know, great to have you on, and, uh, hope that you will come on many times.