And you know, the thing about it is he had, uh, traveled the world-

world-Before he was in Earth, Wind & Fire, before he started Earth, Wind & Fire.

So we were learning, and so we sort of grew up on the road, you know? And, uh, and watching him do what he did, uh, and of course, you know, uh, pulling from the greats, Miles Davis, all those wonderful artists, uh, that he pulled from, too.

So we were very fortunate to, to learn from a great teacher.

Mm.

You just hope that the outcome is a very positive outcome.

But coming into a band, you don't know what's gonna happen, you know, and you don't know what kind of success, if any, that you will have.

You just have to believe in what you're doing.