Yes, I imagine it would need a big infrastructure spend for the processing and sawmills and the like.

Well, a lot of those mills no longer exist.

So there's a number of mills that are remaining and certainly the demand for hardwood products, whether that's decking or cladding, whether that's floorboards, those products that Victorians use in their homes is still very much there.

So the demand for hardwood is hasn't changed.

What we've seen is obviously some policy change over the last few years, which has had significant impacts.

And now we need to look at what's possible going forward.

Our number one call in this election is for a new timber strategy.

Does the future really, though, lie with plantation timber?