What came from that?

The coaching experience was fantastic.

So many fronts.

I think the whole thing for me has given me vocabulary.

So it's given me terminology to kind of sink into and just an easy framework.

I think early on, I was hanging out with you two and Glenn, you were brought to tears because it was, we grabbed the wheel and I was able to just unpack with my son and we'll quickly be able to just point to what he was feeling after school.

And we just moved.

I got it.

So what is the missing link that a lot of people, a lot of voice actors miss?

Yeah, yeah.

So I know your podcast and your people know a lot about the voice and some are really geeked out and really great at anatomy and others are like, yeah, I'll learn what I can.

But I'm a voice physical therapist or a specialist physiotherapist, same name, different countries.

Yeah.

But so the missing thing or the thing in the body that's connected is that the voice is an instrument that's in our body.

And there's aspects of our anatomy and things physically and our mind and heart and all these things are all interlinked.

and speaking of recovery what are the best way like is there anything we can do as talent to recover um best not just after like a cold but also like if you're doing a video game or something like that and you're doing a lot of efforts like how can we recover best