Yeah.

And you could even put that a little bit too.

Am I allowed to say an apocalypse? I don't know.

Or AI, all the stuff that's going on, right? So we are continuing to push there, but actually we pushed as far against some of those boundaries as makes sense, but we're continuing more with FlashRamp, FlashBlade.

Okay.

So items that were in here.

There were three major dimensions you can kind of group these into.

And if you're not connected to that with a native service or something integrated, you're just not able to solve the problem, right? And, I mean, can dovetail to Azure Local next as part of that same ecosystem where we're continuing to invest.

So who were Ionian and what was your role there?

So Ionian was originally a spin out from the Keck Graduate Institute, which is one of the Claremont Consortium of Colleges in sort of East L.A. area.

um, East LA County.

And, um, I was not a founder on day one.

I came in after the company had already been established.

Uh, the company was established on technology out of a lab at Tech Graduate Institute.

Turned out that technology did not work for commercial purposes.

And so when you're coming into these companies now, what's the big lessons and principles that you're trying to instill in them based on what you've learned through those two exits? And where are you most surprised of how maybe ill-prepared or naive – and I'm trying not to be too mean about it – you know what's the sort of gaps that you're seeing in early stage companies as they go you know yeah we want to be acquired one day but what are those sort of values you're trying to instill through your advisory work

Mm

... where every little thing seems to have, uh, deep significance.

Um, so it says, uh, "Then Naomi, her mother-in-law, said to her, 'My daughter, should I not seek rest for you, that it may be well with you? Is not Boaz our relative, with whose young women you were? See, he's winnowing barley tonight at the threshing floor.

Wash your...

Wash therefore and anoint yourself, and put on your cloak and go down to the threshing floor, but do not make yourself known to the man until he's finished eating and drinking.

But when he lies down, observe the place where he lies.

Then go and uncover his feet and lie down, and he will tell you what to do.' And she replied, 'All that you say I will do.' So she went down to the threshing floor and did just as her mother-in-law had commanded her.

[laughs]

And obviously, when the ball hits the bat or the edge of the bat-

bat-It makes a clicking sound.

So this chap has developed a, a, a routine, allegedly, of standing very close to the wicketkeeper in a position called slip, and clicking his fingers whenever the ball goes past the bat.

And so if the umpire thinks that there might have been an edge, but he heard a noise, there's only one thing that it could've been, and it must've been the bat hitting the edge, hitting the ball, and the wicketkeeper taking a catch.

And so this has suddenly blown up because, well, some people have done the deep dive on the stats.

All the stats are available on, on social cricket sites, and this wicketkeeper appears to have taken an inordinate amount of ma- amount of catches.

I mean, the, the record in a test inning, so 150 years of test cricket, the most anyone's ever taken in a single innings is seven, and this chap managed to take eight in a single innings last week.

Could that be mistaken for the sound of a ball?

Um, and it's over to Rob Key again to find someone to do both jobs.

Yeah, yeah, Rob Key, the survivor.

I'm, I'm, I'm impressed with the way he's, he's wriggled off the hook with this one.

I, I, I, I was listening to, listening to the, the, the audio of, of, of the chat with Gould yesterday, and, you know, there were some pretty, pretty, um, heavy, heavy questions about his, his capabilities in, in the role.

Uh, look, I've said before, I thought he was brave to take the job on in the first place.

There was no, there was no reason for him to want to jump out of the Sky gig to do it.

He thought he could make a difference.

But a first bilateral T- T20 series, that's two games or more, uh, win for England, uh, against India, and by such a convincing margin, Miller, uh, was a pleasant surprise to say the least.

It felt a bit meh.

Yeah, it was, it was a weird vibe all day.

From the morning lo- on the, lost the toss, there was a...

The crowd I thought might've been a little bit different.

It was a bit of a Lord's crowd today, and, and you know, Lord's crowd is a wonderful thing for the usual Lord's occasion, a test match and everyone just sipping champagne and kicking back.

You kind of wanted to be a bit more feral today, a bit, bit more, bit more n- bit more excited.

You know, the new, new ra- new world for the women's cricket.

Yeah.

Hey, how you doing? How

you doing? I am good, man.

I am, uh, not as good as the farmhouse celebration.

I followed on Instagram from drew, but, uh, I was, uh, just got back from actually a month in sag Harbor and rented a house in the Hamptons.

So I could chill out in a cool town and see my kids on the weekends and, um, work from there.

And, uh, back to reality here and 105 degree eight wave in incoming this weekend for July 4th here in Boston, which is, uh, not conducive to golf, but, uh, good man.

I'm excited to, uh, really excited to hit the world cup, uh, quarterfinals next Thursday here in Boston.

But I think if you could find out, you know, or if you just see, like, based on timing of deals and, you know, sales happening within a window of price increase, decrease, price changes, I mean, there's probably something to be said for that, you know? I think the price

How does this, uh, new scheme work, uh, and if you can talk us through those time zones.

Kia ora, Ingrid.

Of course.

So time of use or time variant plans offer cheaper power when there's lower demand, so what we call off-peak times.

Uh, that's generally in the mornings, um, outside of 9:00 and, 6:00 and 9:00 AM, which is a high-peak period, and outside of the evenings, outside of 5:00 and 9:00 PM.

Um, it's a simple idea.

Uh, you can save money when shifting your power outside of those peak periods, uh, if your household can do that, and it rewards people for using power when demand on the electricity system is lower, and on the flip side, it also rewards people if they can export power or put power back into the system when, uh, those periods are, are, are there.

Now, how did customers make the most of this? Do the gen tailers have to be proactive? Do the, do the companies have to let you know, give you the, the timeframes for when you should be using cheaper power, or, or do you just sort of have to wing it yourself?

He, he, he clearly was not equipped to go again, and that has gotta come back to the decision-makers above him surely.

Yeah.

Um, the no change thing is, is fascinating.

It's not the first time that England have decided that no change is the right thing with test cricket, and this is, this I think actually stems back to, you know, you can, you can date this back to I, I would argue maybe 2016, 2017.

Around the time when England basically stopped having test cricket as a priority.

With that, that period when Trevor Bayliss came on board and they started pushing towards white-ball cricket being the absolute priority.

Remember when Joe Root took over as captain from Alastair Cook, say, in 2017, and there was that sense that it's just a bit s- it's a bit sta- stasis here.

So, uh, things could look very different still by the time we get to, to late August and that first test against Pakistan.

How much of an obstacle is serious bad weather to this kind of technology right now?

So one way to look at it is, is that if humans can drive in bad weather, a machine can.

The question of how they do it depends on which technology stack you are thinking of.

So the Waymo approach relies on the consensus of the field that for a self-driving car to know, I'll put that in quotes, "know where it is," it has to rely on a variety of senses.

So you, Ross, you can see, but you can also smell, you can also taste.

The Waymo view is a self-driving car should be able to see with its cameras, it should see with its radar, it should see with its lidar.

Lidar, think of like radar, but it's with light.

As many car accidents as there are in the U.S., most people go through a year or five years without getting in one, right? So how do you as an advocate for this technology or some version of this technology see it getting over the hump of different forms of public resistance?

But, um, being around an environment that is ready to, to go and play an Ashes Series is, is enhancing my game as well as everyone else's.

Yeah, 'cause there's an awful, awful lot of talk about how the Lions are trying to sort of completely replicate that experience so that when the time comes, you, you basically know it already.

I mean, again, in terms of just the, the progression you're making, how much of a, a step up, a step change was it to be involved in that set-up? And especially I guess in light of everything that's been talked about in the England set-up and maybe a slight disconnect from county cricket, did you feel that being, being, being privy to all that was, was, was a privilege and a, and a, and a s- step closer to the ultimate goal?

Conversations happening, but, uh, my decision to make that change and then kind of, um, how that, how does that look.

That must take an awful lot of self-motivation though.

I mean, you know, without wanting to bang on about Jersey and the, and the beginnings of your career, but to, to have that self-belief that, "Yeah, I need to just do something else to get to the next level, next, ne- next level, next level." You keep, you seem to have, have an inner drive that, that is irrespective of, of, of, um, coaching and, and circumstances, I suppose.

I guess the question is, really cool things enough to keep you in the job as opposed to winning things.

Well, quite.

I mean, you know, you analyse that statement.

We've achieved some really cool things.

Yes.

Yes, you really have.

I mean, some of the wins that England pulled off, I think, for example, Pakistan winning 3-0, including that incredible match at Feistabad, wasn't it? When they gallivanted.

But McCullum, from that statement, seems to be going in the other direction.

It's the fact that we've not had the whole picture from the start.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, Rob Key's role in this is deeply weird, to be overly honest.

At some stage, there will be accountability for the barefaced lies, frankly, that he uttered ahead of the Melbourne test when he said that nothing, no disciplinary action had been needed or whatever his words were.

It's like, well, You know full well it has because this chap has been fined on the quiet and there are other guys implicated who've been given final warning.

So that's one level.

But I'm actually more interested in the role of McCullum in all this and actually by extension Ben Stokes, who obviously was Brooks' captain during the Ashes and would have been across everything, all the fallout from Wellington.

But it's those two, Rashid and Joffre, that look to be carrying quite a lot.

Um, is, I mean, i- in the sense the schedule there has, has prevented any sense of, a- any chance of, of England changing regime because you [laughs] you can't fire a coach two weeks out from a global tournament.

Yeah.

It, it's Trumpian, isn't it? Just, you know, have a, have a, have a distraction.

"Look over there.

There's something else going on.

No, don't look here.

Look over there.

Yes

But it added to the list of transgressions.

Well, it did.

I mean, if we're going to be fair to England, I think it's only fair to give them some leeway occasionally.

They were unlucky on that first day that there were only 45 overs.

I think it was one of those days when Australia were put on the back foot.

And by not being given that chance to really grind them down into the second half of the day because of bad weather, you know, it means that, as you mentioned, Scott Boland and Mitchell Stark and the guys who were 35, 36 already were not being pushed through to those second, third spells into the evening, just getting the wear and tear into their legs.

They were able to rest up for an extended night and come back firing and do the needful to break through in the following morning.

And that was sort of underscored the point.