What about you guys? I mean, what are some things that just, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I would just build on what he's saying because to me it's, it's that for sure.

But then it's one of the things that lights me up so much is like when you actually see people begin to like serve in their gifting and actually just make a, they're making a huge dent for kingdom's sake in so many different areas.

I mean, you got people that are being sent to the nations.

Obviously, that's incredible.

But then you have other people that are starting businesses and trying to be good employers.

Like, how do you encourage them to think about like what God might be asking them to do? And I mean, how would you kind of respond to that? I got to be a varsity Christian to step into this.

Yeah, when I

look back, because we do a lot of coaching with guys that are planting.

Man, our latest church plant from in the house, we don't do partner planting, we do parent planting.

So it's in the house.

These guys are raised here years.

It takes years to raise a church planter.

And man, they just launched in Buies Creek, North Carolina last night.

There's a lot of negative sentiment around growing churches.

Mm-hmm.

And so some of those things would be, um, you know, when I look back, we just had a real drive to keep the runway clear.

Like, we had a real, um, we had a deep-seated conviction that if God is gonna bring us people to steward, then we have got to do what is in our control, which is really only a few things.

Are there seats for them? Is there, you know, is there kids capacity where their kids can come and, and learn? Is there parking for them? How quick can we make decisions? Now, a lot of other things can kill a church, I know that, but these are four things that we identified so early on.

I got those four things from Larry Osborne very early in my, in my opportunity to, to, to, you know, plant and grow with Mercy Hill.

I got a chance to, to get mentored by some guys like that.

And man, those things are just so right.

If someone's in a plateaued or declining church right now and they feel stuck What's one piece of advice you'd give them?

In this podcast, Professor Andrew Hopper of Oxford Lifelong Learning investigates how these legal records can advance our understanding of popular politics, royalism and urban culture in a city on the threshold of the Second Civil War.

When students study the local impacts of the British Civil Wars, the city of Norwich is often considered a peaceful backwater or place of safety far from the bloodshed of armed hostilities.

Yet, on 24th April 1648, a rioting crowd in Norwich's marketplace accidentally unleashed the largest explosion recorded in 17th century England.

98 barrels of gunpowder were detonated.

By way of comparison, this was about three times as many barrels as were hidden in the cellars under the Parliament House.

by the notorious gunpowder plotters of 1605.

Despite this being such a dramatic moment in Norwich's history, the episode is often overlooked by many of the national narratives of the civil wars.

who flew up into the air as spectacles of divine anger, as if God should speak from heaven.

Certainly the city was not well kept when the keeper of it could not keep himself.

So reflected Thomas Ramsey in a letter to John Utting in 1647 on the outbreak of civil war in Norwich five years earlier.

Ramsay had been the Minister of Reps in Norfolk and had recently been thrown out of his living by the parliamentarians.

Ramsay was remembering how Norwich's royalist-sympathising mayor, William Gostlin, had been deposed and a parliamentarian city government established in 1643.

Yet Norwich is often dismissed as having been only marginally affected by the civil wars.

It suffered no sieges, as comparable provincial capitals did at York, Bristol and Exeter.

It was a walled city of 20,000 inhabitants, making it second only to London in size.

What would they do? Yea, what would they not do? Everyone should sit down and think with himself, what shall I give or do that my person should not be enslaved, that my wife and daughters be not abused, that my poor children be not massacred, that my house be not plundered, that my country be not betrayed.