Mm-hmm

... is huge, especially when it's kind of a guided hand from someone that has the experience.

It's not someone that doesn't know what's going on, they're just throwing a course together to get paid, right? It's, "Hey, these people know what they're doing.

They've been in the weeds before.

They've broken stuff in production.

They understand these small things that have to go on to make everything work appropriately." Um, other than that, if, if you don't wanna pay for something, there's like, there's so many Like free resources now it's actually insane.

I mean, there's GitHub repos that are getting starred daily that have projects for cloud, uh, generative AI systems, right? Claude.

What does a successful planning phase really look like? Like what, what kind of conversations should people be having?