Give us a sense of what that chaos looked like for you, just the thread of it.

One, I loved it just because I love chaos, and I love learning and experiencing, and I love stretching my own envelope to figure out there's something there that can go.

But the journey of it was really understanding, one, understanding what I'm good at.

So if I had to mega kind of high-level the learnings, The first was understanding what I'm really good at, what attracts people around me and what is the influence or value add that I can drive into a person.

Not what I want to say, not what I want to think I'm good at, but what do people come back to me time and time again for? And how do I influence those lives so that those people can make a difference in themselves versus we go for a nice kumbaya cup of coffee and people go home feeling like they've heard.

But how do you turn that into...

So that was an eye-opener for me.

You can't mention names because you're in the confidentiality business, but share one that helps illustrate this great work.

Maybe not even in the next I

agree with you.

You know, if AI does replace the workforce, it's because society have found a way to get the technology to work smarter and faster than us.

And maybe it gets there.

I look at my use of AI and I use AI extensively.

And I look at how productive I've become.

I look at the number of things I can do that I never used to be able to do.

Now, what, Growing up in South Africa, teaching about people and leadership.

Mm.

There's, there is a missing page he- p- piece here.

And often it's a tiny piece of information or insights that you don't have.

In terms of how, gosh, I can tell you how, hey.

I just...

I have an ability to walk into an oil and gas plant right now.

I could switch off of this discussion and go to an oil and gas plant and talk about their line of business, and straight after that go into a SaaS, and then straight after that go into retail, and I'm able to embrace...

Okay.