Why? What have you learned about why it's so hard or what can we do to make it easier?

Yeah, well, you know what? I think the really, really big thing with this is, you know, a lot of people, they know what they need to do.

They know that going to the gym, working out at home, they know what to do, right? And so one of the things I talk a lot about is the inner mental work.

right? There are so many mental barriers, you know, whether it's bad previous experiences, whether it is, you know, maybe it is not knowing what to do.

But one of the things that I love about your program and one of the hypotheses of, you know, probably one of the reasons why it works so well is the accountability that comes with it, right? You do your check-ins, you do, you know, you bring in different guest experts.

And I think that having a touch point like that, is very, very useful for people when they are just getting started with things, you know, knowing that, you know, even with the amount of people in the program, there is somebody there, there is a connection there, right? And so when somebody is starting off with fitness on their own, you know, it can feel lonely.

It can feel lonely.

And you see, you feel so far removed from actually being the fit person that you want to be like, that's a hard, that's a hard, that's hard.

Is it better to go five to seven days a week, but only 15 minutes in the gym or, you know, in the gym walking, whatever it might be? Is there a standard there that one is better than the other? Like what's the is there a rule around that?

Yeah, great question.

For me, I look at things very practically, right? If we're going to a gym for 15 minutes, you know, five days a week or something, you're probably spending five minutes during a warm-up.

You're probably doing a little bit of stretching.

And I just don't think that, you know, you're going to have to drive there.

You're going to have to walk there.

So I feel like you're spending a lot of wasted time to get, you know, 10 or 15 minutes of, of working out in, um, that being said, same thing.

Well, we had a member say, I can't walk 10,000 steps a day my knees don't allow that so what's what what is your take on walking like do you is it really exercise do you have to level up to make it really exercise is it what what's your take let's have a real take on this

Okay.

Yeah.

Um, so that's what I would say about like kind of like the order of the stretching.

In terms of cardio first versus strength, um, for that one I always like to say you wanna do the one that is kind of like your number one priority, um, to start, right? Like there's a difference between, you know, going on the treadmill for, for three or four minutes to warm up, right? Versus you doing a full cardio, you know, workout of, you know, 40 minutes or whatever you're doing.

Getting a huge, huge sweat going.

Um, you know, there's a difference between using that as a warmup versus using it as a workout.

Um, and in terms of what you would wanna do, cardio versus strength first, again, I always like to say do the one that is your, is your biggest priority, right? So, um, if you were training for like a, you know, a, a 30-kilometer walk, or if you're training for a, you know, something that has to do with it- it's very cardio specific, then you'd probably wanna do that one first.

Yeah.