Is there a connection between them or is that just where life took you?

I think between airline and telco, there are a lot you can say connections because both is a kind of infrastructure business.

and you're it is a super capex heavy you can say industry if you buy your fleet as an airline it costs like hell but you cannot make any forecast if the if the economy is moving fine in the next five or ten years or the competitor situation in your market in telco it's also capex heavy you don't have so many impacts on competition but what you have you don't know if your product is needed You can say finding a new hardware where suddenly the demand on data is exploding.

Suddenly Netflix demand is ramping up.

So you can say the usage of our infrastructure is a little bit unclear.

Sometimes it jumps like hell when you don't expect it.

Because a third party has developed a kind of device.

Yeah, and I think it's fine if they disappear every now and then because there's no reason to cling on to a company that doesn't produce for its stakeholders so switching slightly from industry perspective company perspective to people in your career path have there been people who shaped your career like a mentor or people you worked with