Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, no. Gosh, you know, before I get into that concept of drift, which I think everyone's experienced either themselves or seen it happen at one time or another, I'd like to say, you know, this time of year in the fall, we're really into strategy season, right? You're into the...

end of year planning, you're wrapping up Q3, you're getting things tidied up for Q4.

And now it's like all the work begins where people are doing their offsite meetings.

The executives fly away, you know, and they're gone for days at a time.

They don't respond to emails.

And then you come back with this plan, this strategic plan.

I mean, that's where I kind of go on that, but I'm curious to hear.

So at

Go Diaper Free, we always, I have two books.

One of them is for zero to 18 months.

That's on EC.

And one of them is for potty training, which is 18 months and up.

But sometimes people can, you can do potty training at any age.

You can do 14, 15, 16 months.

Yeah.

Should we start now, even though they won't support her with this until that far into the future?

Yes.

How old was the child? 16 months.

16 months.

And we're looking at December 20th.

Is it 22 months? Yeah.

And we probably are in summer break right now.

And so hit pause.

Absolutely was.

I heard about, so I never wanted kids.

I have six.

I never, I was like, yeah, no, I'm good.

They're stinky and like kind of just high maintenance and annoying and cry a lot and all that stuff, you know? I was like, I'm good.

But then I heard that a friend of a friend was not using diapers and instead they were using the sink to potty their baby in.

And I was like, whoa, that makes, actually that makes a lot of sense.

Why do you think this is? Is it just the rise of corporations have come along and created more disposable diapers that are more absorbent, et cetera? There's a few things.

Oh,

definitely.

Especially during play who wants to leave play to go to the bathroom, nobody, but it's really nice to make a baby really comfortable and less fussy so they can play and get into that deeper learning, which is really good for them and healthy for them.

Um, so a part of, you know, I, I love Montessori's work as well and like facilitating the environment and setting the stage for, for the kids work to be done.

And so they're getting a lot out of it, but you and I will get up from a work day to go to the bathroom.

So it is a good habit to have instead of just sit there and pee on yourself or poop yourself and just keep playing.

So it supports good play.

Hmm.

right but and i will tell you sometimes that might be exactly when you can't fit well the baby ate and the baby got sleep and the baby is thirsty what else could it be and you try everything it's that

it is that be usually because okay oh there's so much here but usually after you feed a baby especially a newborn zero to four months this is a great thing yes everybody process it so they don't they don't take that long to process breast milk or formula 10 to 15 minutes after you feed a baby.

So they've woken up, you fed them.

They are cared for.

You have changed their diaper.

You've done all the things.

And then they start to fuss and you're like, what could you possibly need? So they try everything.

important in a home.

So how do you get to that? a point where you're going to settle on a number that's significant and something that you're comfortable with sticking with? Gosh, you know,

it's a tough question because I think, you know, the first thing that people naturally do from a, you know, inherent behavioral science perspective is self-preservation.

So even if let's say God came down himself and said 11% and walked away, you might tell your supervisor nine, you know, just to hedge.

And I think people do that because not only because there's incentives tied to those numbers and salaries or commissions tied to those numbers, but also I think some salespeople understand that the entire operation is is tied to those projections.

So if you're shooting too high and you say, yeah, we're going to make a million dollars this year.

And the company says, great, we can spend half a million on something.

And then halfway through the year, it's like, you're not even close to halfway to your goal that the impact of that is going to come down to who the salespeople.

Again, the mindset of setting the number and accepting the number.

My head's not wrapped around it

yet.

If you after this episode are like, no way, that's not for me.

Great.

Maybe you just try to catch a poop here and there, see what happens.

Maybe the next time they wake up, you just hold them over the potty and just see.

Once you experience it, you'll probably be hooked.

And so how can this be done? Or could this, do you suggest like parents even try this if they're going to be sending their kid to daycare or they've got twins or they have, you know, two children potty training at the same time or anything like that, that could potentially help? Like, I don't think this is a good time because...

Like, what happens when you have other kids running around, or a mom that's going back to work? What does that look like in real time?

Right.

I have a couple of mini courses on daycare, because that's a whole nother topic, and I've done it.

So I've sent all of mine to a morning care, like six months to 13 months.

Usually after a year, year and a half, I would send them to daycare.

So I've experienced having a baby at daycare as well, so there's that, and, and you can dive into that.

But you can do it before and after, and it still counts.

So, like, is there, like, a step-by-step progression, or what does that look like?

Um, let's talk about the benefits.

Okay, first and foremost is connection.

You're getting this other layer of connection.

It's a back and forth.

There's all that stuff out there right now about a secure attachment and how to raise a securely attached child and all of that, and I think a lot of us are like, "How do we do that for our kids?" EC 100% provides secure attachment 'cause it's responsive.

Um, you're basically responding to a need, helping them trust you and feel safe that their needs will be provided for, and that's a deep level of safety in that we're not gonna have disease and filth on the body.

And this is a mammal instinct, like wolf puppies.

We are not born with the desire to soil ourselves or our caregivers.