In other words, I think you say all of these things to antagonize, to rile, for clicks, and so on, but you must know even as you're saying it that it's bullshit.

No, not at all, Piers, and I, I appreciate you reading those off.

No, I believe in everything that I said.

Uh, I grew up in a household that taught this.

I'm not just somebody who's just saying it just because of the clicks or the internet.

I really don't care about that.

Anyone who's ever worked with me, served with me, been around me knows that I believe in these things.

Let me give, let me give, let me give Andre a chance to respond to that.

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a higher level and that motivation has guided so many black people throughout the century or the last i would say the last two centuries since the beginning of this country forward and even since the ending of slavery but what we see in the 90s and 2000s is this you know it's more profitable to push the you know we got to be hard and we got to push the ghetto shit because there's money to be made here and I think this also is coupled with the crack epidemic as well.

There was a lot of people who made money off of that to profit off of that.

And they told stories of what they did in their music.

But it was also, I could sit back and advertise this lifestyle.

And this lifestyle becomes even more profitable.

If I sell someone a lifestyle, more money can be made from that than me telling the story.

You know, I don't know if that's the direction the music would have gone if there wasn't a lot of co-conspirators.