Can you just talk to me a little bit about that?

I think a lot of corporate big shots will resonate with what I'm about to say.

Sometimes we do very well in areas which we're not necessarily passionate about.

I think what happens, we get caught up in the race, and I got caught up in the race, and I just worked my backside off to see that I could get to the top.

But the reality is that values, which I'd completely confused for goals, are far more important than I thought they were.

So when I actually sat down and I thought, what are my values, and really interrogated myself, and it actually took me a process of two years, by the way.

It wasn't one of these easy things.

I

So what can a business owner do to help staff be motivated, stay positive, and contribute to the positive and, and, um, not be overwhelmed by the negative?

Yeah.

It's such a, such a good question.

Uh, about two years ago, I was asked to go to France and speak to a large organization there about the subject of optimism.

And when I found them and I said, "Firstly, how did you find me?" And they said, "We Googled you, and in the entire world, you are the only big positive guy left, and no one speaks about optimism except for you." And so I said, "So what is the scenario?" And this is an enormous Fortune 500 company with over five hundred subsidiaries and over sixty thousand employees.

And I said to them, "So what do you want me to speak about?" And they said, "We want to inculcate optimism as a value system within our company because a company which doesn't see a future or a company that doesn't see anything happening..." And this was a French company.

They said, "If we don't have that belief, then the CEO will just take his hundreds of millions or, you know, m- millions of millions and, and go away." But they believe that there's still something that we have a role to play.

Mm.