Okay, move on to the next client."

Hmm.

Um, definitely not [laughs] in that way.

Uh, I wanna say first, truly, uh, I feel truly such an honor having gotten to do this and, uh, getting to both read your texts and also, um, some of the quotes from people featured in the book and so on.

And it just makes me So grateful for, you know, everyone who has ever paved the way for me [chuckles], uh, it makes me want to pay it forward.

And if I can create some, let's say, joy or opportunity for, um, reflection or exploration within my work, then I'm so happy.

Um, and I think one, one of the things that, um, comes out of this work for me, and actually especially talking to you about any of my creative things I've ever done, like I think in the past I was like, "Oh, darn, I always end up creating, let's say, suggestive imagery somehow," uh, that's up for interpretation.

Would you, do you feel like you have ownership of your-