How would you describe it?

Well, uh, this is, uh, the biggest corrupt deal that we have seen, uh, Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff, uh, involved in.

And of course, uh, Trump is, uh, behind them.

And, uh, i- it's clear which the assets are.

It's Lukoil's holdings, uh, abroad, which, uh, were previously assessed at $22 billion.

So this is big money.

And, uh, these assets are now sanctioned by the US.

Do you think at the end of the day, if the Democrats take over in the House and possibly the Senate, Witkoff and Kushner could end up in jail?

So is that significant, do you think? What's happening in Russia? I mean, at the very least, they seem to be tiring of that war.

Yes and no. It's a significant sense that everybody's tired of the war, both in Russia and Ukraine.

Previously, the Russians were not so tired about it because it didn't touch them.

Now, the Ukrainians, after Trump cut off U.S. aid to Ukraine, Ukraine.

The Ukrainians have made sure that war reaches the Russians.

Previously, not least the Biden administration told the Ukrainians you are not allowed to hit the Russian oil refineries.

Now the Ukrainians do, and they do so with their own arms that they have produced.

I think he's in Putin's pocket and we don't quite know the full depth of that relationship.

Are we seeing the fruits of mental illness, exacerbating mental illness here? And what does that mean for the world?

Thank you very much for all your kind words, Larry.

I, of course, won't protest anything of what you said.

But when we turn to Trump now, I mean, I think that Trump is rather easy to understand, actually.

If you think of it first, it's power.

Second, it's money for himself and his family.

And thirdly, it's vanity.

What, you know, do you think this is planned out or do you think this is more just Trump wakes up this morning and does something? It feels like...

It's still private, but it's...

it is in a very circumscribed situation.

But over to Trump's policy here, I think that the best way to understand Trump when it comes to Russia-Ukraine is to see him as a junior partner to Putin.

in the sense that he has no policy input and he does what Putin likes.

So we just ask, does Putin like Ukraine? No.

OK, we beat Ukraine as much as the US electorate allows us to.

And apparently that's quite a bit.

should admire any dictator, but I mean, there's a lot, you know, go