That is where he met Roland Carter.

Roland Carter was a Ngarrindjeri man from Port Macleay Mission in South Australia.

He, like so many Aboriginal people at that time, was removed from his traditional lands and put on another part of country and enclosed in those missions.

They couldn't leave.

Their lives were controlled by the states, including curfews and permissions to leave for work and so forth.

So First Nations peoples were subjected to the bureaucratic violence of the Australian state in a very different way, but also in very similar ways to the people that we are looking at in this podcast series.

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Leonard Adam at this time was involved in an ethnographic project designed to collect information about the cultures and the customs of prisoners of war from British Imperial Forces.

That is where he met Roland Carter.

Roland Carter was a Ngarrindjeri man from Port Macleay Mission in South Australia.

He, like so many Aboriginal people at that time, was removed from his traditional lands and put on another part of country and enclosed in those missions.

They couldn't leave; their lives were controlled by the states, including curfews and permissions to leave for work and so forth.

So First Nations peoples were subjected to the bureaucratic violence of the Australian state in a very different way, but also in very similar ways to the people that we are looking at in this podcast series.

After listening to my conversations with Grant several times, Roland Carter offered of his own accord to give me his reports on the natives of Lake Alexandrina.

Leonard Adam at this time was involved in an ethnographic project designed to collect information about the cultures and the customs of prisoners of war from British Imperial Forces.

Leonard Adam was also interviewing Gurkhas and Indians.