Um, could you speak to that a little bit and how sort of awakening from the big lie sort of starts to allow you to sort of see who you are within the system and whether or not you can sort of stay or you have to step out?

Yeah, that's a big question.

[chuckles] I do think it does leave us in shock when we realize and we really feel it inside of our body, so it's visceral.

It's not just this mental realization.

We can tend to shove that away, like most of the people it sounds like did at that event.

But the, you know, the piece of it that I think is important to focus on is you do know, and now you have the power of choice.

And in a way, the choice is our only manual transmission movement into something different.

And for the caregiver who can see the dysfunctional fa- family pattern clearly but still has to care tomorrow, what does it mean to sh- have to keep showing up for real needs without surrendering their life to guilt, manipulation, coercion, and control moving forward?