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Yeah.

Yeah.

I quite like the, uh, the fact that you can go anywhere in the world and find rocks that are similar to those that you'd find at home as well.

So for example, you've got Giant's Causeway in Ireland and a bit on the edge of Scotland as well actually, and it's that, that type of rock that forms the, the columns.

But also you find that in Tasmania, which is-

It was just, it was something that was not finished, and it was just, it was just litter.

I love that.

No,

no, I didn't.

No, we used to go walking when I was younger, but it was always on like marked trails and things, nothing.

It wouldn't have even been snowed on, which is actually, if you are following a marked trail, it is difficult to get lost if you're not, if you're paying attention.

If you stop paying attention, then you can end up following the wrong arrow and going a different way.

I have nearly done that before on Snowdon when I was younger.

But the...

You know, shivering in the standing in the river fishing, shivering, thinking, actually, this isn't that much fun at the moment.

When you're given a set of scripts where the holdovers doesn't scream that it's an action film, but the one that you're doing later this year is a heavy action film, when you're given two scripts that are very sounding different, what is your process for going through and saying, this is the one I want to work on, Is the bigger action one just more of your immediate draw? Or was there something about the holdovers that said, this is something that I might pass on other things for?

Yeah, no, that's a great question.

And one thing is that I was doubling on the action film.

So the Warner Brothers action movie that I did, I was a double, not the stunt coordinator.

The stunt coordinator was the incredible Adam Curley from the UK, who I really enjoyed working with.

But when I get scripts as a stunt coordinator, like when I stunt coordinated The Holdovers or Tony or the drama, the films that I've done recently, I do try to keep within that kind of like brand.

I like, you know, films that are original and I like storytelling and I try to, you know, live in the world of Somewhat, you know, I like indie movies.

I mean, how much of a responsibility as a coordinator is there to find a solution or are there points where you just have to say, we can't do this?

What,

you know, what would you say to to that? So it's about two things.

One is about planning, right? It's about having a plan for your business, for your money to say, here's what I need my business to do for me.

I need to be able to operate my business and pay my monthly expenses.

I need to pay myself.

I need to save for taxes.

I need to keep money aside for slow seasons.

And switching gears just a little bit, for the business owners who only look at their financial health once a year during tax season, what would you say are the two or three critical numbers they should be looking at maybe every single week or or, you know, bi-monthly at least to maintain a real clarity on their numbers.

And maybe unpack a bit about your views around that balance between individual responsibility for wellbeing and institutional responsibility for wellbeing.

Yeah, I mean, what is wellbeing? It's one of the questions I think I've written about in all of my books to try and help us understand it, because it's this question we're all asking.

We all know it matters.

We all wanna be able to achieve it or do something with it.

But we often can't define it.

And so when I work with schools or even individuals, I say y- the first step is to define it.

Like, that is the first piece of the puzzle.

Mm-hmm

But before we do, I've given everyone the formal intro, but why don't you tell everyone who you are, what you do, and, and who you serve?

Yeah, absolutely.

So my name's Amy, and I used to be a teacher and a school leader, and that is a deeply ingrained passion within me that I can't shake.

But education, like many other professions and sectors and even corporate, is shifting and adjusting, and we're seeing, you know, burnout increasing and w- wellbeing becoming a hot topic.

And I've been in that space for a little over 10 years now in my leadership roles, and then writing some books and doing a few different pieces.

I knew that if we didn't start to prioritize the wellbeing of our people, we weren't gonna have great places to work in.

And 10 years ago, no one [chuckles] wanted to talk about it.

Mm

Uh, A- Amy, what was, what was your experience of sort of trade shows and, and fairs and that, of, of that ilk before the game fair, then?

Um, so before the game fair, when I was a kid, I remember Mum taking me to kind of the local county shows and things.

I think I went to Ches- Cheshire County Show.

Um, I just have one memory of that where I was looking in the, one of the tents, and they had all sorts of different things, including ferrets.

And I was handling this ferret, which was being really nice and gentle, and my mum saw it from across the tent and thought, "Oh, that looks really nice." And I always loved animals as a kid.

And then she walked over and smelt it and immediately just said, "You are not having one."

[laughs]

"No ferrets in our house." I was like, "Okay." But other than that, I suppose other tr- kind of shows that would be similar but in different areas were the outdoor trade show, the...

So tell me about what was that experience for you and how was it and what it taught you, and then we'll dive into the details.

Yeah, it's really surreal to be asked that question.

And I think we're going on eight years when I first entered my integrative GP's office where all I could say was I was tired.

You know, I'm so tired and I don't know why, but there's nothing wrong with me because I'm doing all of the right things.

You know, I'm getting up at 5am, I'm doing my gratitude journal, my meditation, my breath work, I'm going to the gym, I do weight sessions, I get 10,000 steps in a day, I'm climbing the leadership ladder and I'm showing up to work and I'm enthused and I love my job and in the evening I'm studying and I have family time.

As you can tell from how I explained it, I was doing everything.

It was a lot.

Maybe we could start in the workplace, looking at how well-being is framed in the workplace, well-being programs and so forth, and where you think that they're going wrong.

... bounty hunter possibly haunting the barn.

Possibly.

Um, a lot of people get a lot of hits out there too.

Um, what we know is, um, that people do get scratched out there.And there is, like, a male presence.

So the story goes that, um, a bounty hunter came to the property, and he was, you know, looking for escaped slaves to take them back south.

And where we're at in Ohio, we're kinda like midway in the middle, and so if you went any farther north, it would've been harder to take slaves back south.

You know, it's a longer distance.

Oh, that's interesting.

Oh, wow.

And bought, [coughs] and bought and purchased in, um, let's see, 1853.

And, uh, at the time, of course, you know, there wasn't anything there, but George Willison Adams, um, he purchased that land, and he had built this house of his dreams.And he was the wealthiest man in the county, or at least the northern part of the county.

And so he built it in order to show his wealth and his power, if you will.

Back in the day, you, you showed your wealth.

And this is a, um, 29-room Italianate style brick house, and it has a basement.

It has its main floor, a second floor, which is, um, basically the family living area.

[laughs]

... bounty hunter possibly haunting the barn.

Possibly.

Um, a lot of people get a lot of hits out there, too.

Um, what we know is, um, that people do get scratched out there, and there is, like, a male presence.

So the story goes that, um, a bounty hunter came to the property, and he was, you know, looking for escaped slaves to take them back south.

And where we're at in Ohio, we're kinda like midway in the middle.

And so if you went any farther north, it would've been harder to take slaves back south.

Oh, that's interesting.

Oh, wow.

And bought, [laughs] bought and purchased in, um, let's see, 1853.

And, uh, at the time, of course, you know, there wasn't anything there, but George Willison Adams, um, he purchased that land, and he built this house of his dreams.

And he was the wealthiest man in the county, or at least the northern part of the county.

And so he built it in order to show his wealth and his power, if you will.

Back in the day, you, you showed your wealth.

And this is a, um, 29-room Italianate style brick house, and it has a basement.

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